"A bayonet is a weapon with a working man at either end."

Stephen Goranson goranson at DUKE.EDU
Wed Feb 1 09:53:20 UTC 2012


"A bayonet is a weapon with a worker at each end." "Slogan of English pacifists, 1940" appears on p. 87
in  A New dictionary of quotations on historical principles from ancient and modern sources / selected and edited by H.L. Mencken.      New York : A.A. Knopf, 1942. Confirmed on paper.

Stephen Goranson
http://www.duke.edu/~goranson
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The following 1966 reference has a version of the saying, but it does
not connect it to John Maclean.

Cite: 1966, "Dictionary of Military and Naval Quotations" edited by
Robert Debs Heinl, Category: bayonet, Page 31, Column 2, United States
Naval Institute, Annapolis, Maryland. (Verified on paper)
[Begin excerpt]
A bayonet is a weapon with a worker at each end.
Socialist slogan, early 20th century
[End excerpt]

The marxists.org website has a collection of speeches and articles by
John MacLean. I tried a quick Google search in the marxists.org domain
and could not find an instance of the quotation about bayonets. The
saying may be worded differently, or I may have missed it:

http://www.marxists.org/archive/maclean/index.htm

Garson

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
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> There is also the possibility he said them in Russian, which Maclean
> had learned by 1918.
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> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Jonathan Lighter
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>> Tens of thousands attribute this quote to the Scottish Socialist John
>> Maclean (1879-1923: he even got on a Soviet postage stamp in 1979).
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>> Maclean supposedly uttered the words in 1917 or '18, but the Wikipedia
>> article doesn't mention them.
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>> Real? Or Memorex?
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>> JL
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