"Don't Say Gay"

[Joel S. Berson]

At 2/16/2012 11:52 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>Doesn't "indoctrinate" usually have distinct brainwashing connotations
>nowadays? Particularly when applied to children?

No, it means "teach them the true doctrine."

Joel


>Totalitarians "indoctrinate" schoolchildren. We "educate" them.
>
>JL
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>On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:41 PM, Benjamin Barrett
><gogaku at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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> > Poster:       Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
> > Subject:      Re: "Don't Say Gay"
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> > On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:30 PM, Benjamin Barrett wrote:
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> >> On Feb 16, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Victor Steinbok wrote:
> >>
> >>> That's the name of the Tennessee bill that prohibits the discussion of
> >>> any gay issues in schools prior to 9th grade. But this is not why I am
> >>> forwarding this. John DeBerry (D-Memphis) made an argument in support of
> >>> the proposition:
> >>>
> >>>> The basic right as an American is my right to life, my right to
> >>>> liberty and my right to the pursuit of happiness. Within that includes
> >>>> being able to run my home, raise my children as I see fit and to
> >>>> indoctrinate them as I see fit.
> >>>
> >>> What got my attention was the beginning of the second sentence, "within
> >>> that includes..." that treats "within that" as a subject.
> >>>
> >>>    VS-)
> >>
> >> Interesting catch. And it sounds perfectly normal, evidence that
> grammar is a construction fabricated from patterns in speech.
> >
> >
> > BTW, this doesn't feel like "within that" is the subject.
> >
> > To me, it feels like "within that" is preposed as a topic and
> "includes" somehow is "is included." I can't justify it, though.
> >
> > Benjamin Barrett
> > Seattle, WA
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