American exceptionalizm?

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Wed Feb 22 17:41:42 UTC 2012


I think it's writers about Turner who use this phrase.  I don't
believe he used "American exceptionalizm" (certainly not with the Z
of Tom's Subject line), although he did use the adjective
"exceptional". The phrase I associate with him is "manifest destiny",
which does appear in his "The Frontier in American History", in a
nice pithy form:  "The Western man believed in the manifest destiny
of his country."

Joel

At 2/22/2012 12:02 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
>Doesn't the phrase go back to Frederick Turner? GB only gives an unclear
>snippet, but I vaguely recall it.
>DanG
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>On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Jonathan Lighter
><wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
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> > If Commies feared it, it must be good, Also, since they were materialists,
> > it must be real.
> >
> > QED.
> >
> > Nuances ad lib.
> >
> > I can recall grad-student lefties of the '80s denouncing the "myth of
> > American exceptionalism" in the current sense of "American moral,
> > intellectual, ideological, theological, cultural, and political superiority
> > to all." (I think that's when it became popular - "Shining City on the
> > Hill," blah, blah, blah, blah, blah....)
> >
> > Historians, as I understand it, use the phrase to encapsulate the idea that
> > U.S. history (successful, long-shot revolution against the top world power,
> > democratic constitution framed by political philosophers, big
> > contradiction/hypocrisy/sin of chattel slavery, westward push, Civil War,
> > robber barons, business growth, world wars and superpower prominence)
> > really does make the U.S. different from, say, tiny Albania.
> >
> > However, the historians' concept often subsumes the public faith in the
> > excellences listed above.
> >
> > JL
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Arnold Zwicky <zwicky at stanford.edu>
> > wrote=
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> > > On Feb 22, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Jon Lighter wrote:
> > >
> > > > Essentially the phrase simply means "the uniqueness of America."
> > >
> > > well, yes, but ...
> > >
> > > some good discussion in the latest issue of Daedalus, "On the American
> > > Narrative", especially:
> > >
> > > New York University history Professor David Levering Lewis, in
> > > =93Exceptionalism=92s Exceptions: The Changing American Narrative,=94
> > tra=
> > ces the
> > > history of American exceptionalism =93from high-flown political science
> > > theory=85to ideological boilerplate=94
> > >
> > > and in =93The American Mythos,=94 by Jay Parini, Middlebury College
> > >
> > > arnold
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