required plural marking in 2PP

Paul Johnston paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU
Sun Jul 8 15:57:11 UTC 2012


Jamaican  Creole (and the whole Caribbean group, I think) has sing. yu, pl. una (unu in some Caribbean varieties).

Paul Johnston
On Jul 8, 2012, at 2:56 AM, Michael Newman wrote:

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> Once when I was teaching in high school in NYC, I left a class befuddled =
> during a rant about their not turning in their homework. I had said =
> something along the lines of, "you have to do your homework in this =
> class." They just looked confused and one asked me who I meant. I =
> figured that the problem was that I had said the bare "you," which they =
> interpreted as strictly singular. To be understood I should have said =
> "you guys." Now the class was virtually all Latino and Black, (mix of =
> 2nd generation Jamaican American and African American). Spanish has a =
> clean division of labor between singular and plural forms, but is anyone =
> aware of this phenomenon in AAE or Jamaican? They mostly used a reduced =
> form of you all (with /l/ typically vocalized), but the relevant point =
> for me is not the form but the requirement for plural marking.=20
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> This is the next logical step in the evolution of the English pronoun =
> system to the extent that such steps can be described as logical.=20
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> Michael Newman
> Associate Professor of Linguistics
> Queens College/CUNY
> michael.newman at qc.cuny.edu
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