required plural marking in 2PP
Benjamin Barrett
gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM
Sun Jul 8 20:44:56 UTC 2012
It would surprise me if "you all" isn't used more frequently than "you guys" when women are present. That's the hint.
Benjamin Barrett
Seattle, WA
On Jul 8, 2012, at 1:19 PM, Michael Newman wrote:
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> You guys is pretty general in NYCE among Asians and Whites. I've noticed it used by African Americans and Latinos who avoid AAE too. There's no exclusion of females involved, nor is there with "guys" as vocative. Youse is heard too in NYC. You all can be heard but more rarely.
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> Thanks Matt for that reference and Wilson for confirming the obligatoriness that I suspected.
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> Michael Newman
> Associate Professor of Linguistics
> Queens College/CUNY
> michael.newman at qc.cuny.edu
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> On Jul 8, 2012, at 9:52 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>> I think I that or "you guys," but "guys" still has the hint of excluding women, so "you all" or "everyone" works better.
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>> But there was that awful commercial in which a woman surprised by her
>> friend girls exclaims, "Oh, you guys!" One of that thong that made it,
>> IMO, awful was that it's hard to come up with something that she could
>> have said instead, other than "Oh, you all are so nice! to me!" or
>> some such.
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