Youneverknow III

[Dan Goncharoff]

Is someone getting confused with the British and their Department of State
for War?
DanG


On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Baker, John <JBAKER at stradley.com> wrote:

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> Only in that nobody ever says there's no Department of State.
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> Although, as Jon notes, Wikipedia says that it was previously the
> Department for War, this is incorrect.  However, the Department of State
> was originally, and briefly, known as the Department of Foreign Affairs.
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> John Baker
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> On Jul 9, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Baker, John wrote:
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> > Specifically, there never was a War Department as such, although it was
> often called that.
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> Is this any different from the non-existence of the State Department
> (which I assume is likewise officially the Department of State)?
>
> LH
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> > The Department of War was established on August 7, 1789, in the seventh
> statute passed by Congress.  It retained that title until passage of the
> National Security Act of 1947, which transmogrified it into the Department
> of the Army, which in 1949 was made part of the Department of Defense.
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> > John Baker
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> > According to Wikipedia, they continued believing that until 1947,
> > though it was also called the War Department:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Department_of_War
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> > Benjamin Barrett
> > Seattle, WA
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> > On Jul 8, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
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> >>
> >> There never was a Department of War?
> >>
> >> In 1832 they thought there was:
> >>
> >> http://www.jstor.org/stable/60205341
> >>
> >> DanG
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 2:53 PM, W Brewer <brewerwa at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Wilson wrote: <<<Department of War > Department of Defense  >
> >>> Department of Good?>>>
> >>> WB: I once heard Hal Gleason rant that there never was a Department
> >>> of War or a Defense Department: it was a War Department and is a
> >>> Department of Defense.
> >>> War Office > War Department > Department of Defense > *Homeland "R" Us?
> >>>
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