yeah, no

[Jonathan Lighter]

Former NYPD detective on CNN today: "Yeah, no, you're right!"

JL



On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:

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> Some of the Language Log exx. show that "yeah-no" can also mean "yeah."
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> The whole discussion is worth a look.
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> It reminds me of the first time I noticed people saying "so I was like,"
> meaning "so I thought or said."
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> Very strange at the time (I was already a grownup), but soon afterwards
> tediously "normal."
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> JL
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> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Ben Zimmer
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> > It's come up frequently on Language Log:
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> > http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/005523.html
> > http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/005525.html
> > http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/005529.html
> > http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=38
> >
> > And here is Ben Yagoda on the Chronicle's Lingua Franca blog:
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> > http://chronicle.com/blogs/linguafranca/2012/06/14/yeah-no/
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> > --bgz
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Right, I'm frequently told about "yeah, no", and the non-equivalent
> "no,
> > > yeah", when I talk (not infrequently) about negation.  I agree that
> "yes,
> > > no" is far less likely (and would indicate changing of mind, which
> "yeah,
> > > no" doesn't).
> > >
> > > LH
> > >
> > > On Jul 16, 2012, at 6:10 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > >
> > > > Current TV commercial:
> > > >
> > > > LADY AT SEANCE: Thank you, Priceline Negotiator, wherever you are!
> > > >
> > > > SPIRIT MEDIUM: Yeah, no, he's over here.
> > > >
> > > > There's no reason on Wotan's green earth why Beowulf's grandma
> > shouldn't
> > > > have been saying the OE equivalent of this (presumably "gese, na") in
> > > > similar situations, but I've only been noticing it for a few years.
> > > >
> > > > The "yeah" acknowledges the remark, and the "no" instantly denies its
> > > > accuracy before the nay-sayer corrects it.
> > > >
> > > > I've never heard "*yes, no."
> > > >
> > > > Back in the 20th C., when we were all rude primitives, I would have
> > > > said,
> > > > "No, he's over here." Or "(Well)(Actually) he's over here." But
> > possibly
> > > > those responses are now either too cruelly direct or employ to many
> > > > syllables.
> > > >
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