"a day that will live in infamy" (in a positive way)

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sun Jun 3 04:02:03 UTC 2012


On 6/1/12, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
> And Roosevelt was correct to use "which".

Yes, he was. Are there people now saying that he was, somehow,
incorrect?! That's amazing! But,

Youneverknow.

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On 6/1/12, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> At 6/1/2012 10:32 PM, Arnold Zwicky wrote:
>>On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Larry Horn wrote:
>> >
>> > According to Bobby Ojeda, announcer and himself former New York
>> Mets pitcher, on the Mets' post-game show tonight, that's the
>> legacy of tonight's game, after Johan Santana completed the first
>> no-hitter in the 50-year history of the Mets.  Nothing infamous (in
>> the traditional sense) about the game or the day; it's just a
>> bleaching, like that of "notorious" = 'famous', facilitated of
>> course by the FDR tag line for Pearl Harbor, but unlike Bobby O.,
>> Roosevelt really *meant* it back in Dec. '41.
>>
>>of course, the original is "a day which will live in infamy".  that
>>was before CMOS got to it.
>
> 1)  Of course, the original is "a *date* which will live in
> infamy."  (And Roosevelt was correct to use "which".  But that's
> another story.)
>
> 2)  Larry heard it, I didn't.  But was Oejda thinking of the hit that
> landed on the foul line (a tennis umpire would have run down from his
> chair to point to the ball mark) but was called foul, thus allowing
> the no-hitter to continue?  That would make it an "infamous" no-hitter.
>
> Joel
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