kibbeh

[Victor Steinbok]

Inconsequential, but not exactly minor correction. The Ottomans might
have got it from the Western Turkic (Turkomen; Oghuz) expansion that
first resulted in Western Qaghanate, then the Seljuk Empire and the
Sultanate of Rum. The Golden Horde invasion was secondary to the Middle
East, but it was primary to Russia and neighboring territories. Still,
the Ottoman Empire was a successor to the Seljuk Sultanate, which fell
to Mongols in 1243 (a bit over 20 years after the invasion of Slavic
territories), so the timing would still work. Early Russians did not
have an established trade of any significance with the Great Seljuk
Empire, so the language would have been less likely influenced by them
than by the invading Golden Horde.

     VS-)

On 5/10/2012 6:10 PM, Victor Steinbok wrote:
> the word actually came from the Golden Horde
> invasion, which is how the Ottomans got it as well.

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