dropping -ed in adjectives

[Lisa Galvin]

It's not just [st] clusters though. I have noticed it in Hawaii all over the place, in writing, and always with -ed adjectives; e.g. "shave ice".
                                                   Lisa GalvinSeattle USA

> Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 15:57:53 -0400
> From: laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
> Subject: Re: dropping -ed in adjectives
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> Might this not be phonological in origin, simplifying -[st] clusters to -[s], rather than applying to (participial) adjectives across the board?  If the same people say "he pass' me on the street las' week" or "in times pas'", it's not really a fact about adjectives as such.  Of course, if people are *writing" "He ain't prejudice", that's a further step, recalling our old threads on "ice tea/coffee"--and of course "ice cream", where the -ed dropping has become universal.
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> LH
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> On May 16, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Paul Johnston wrote:
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> > My students, whether hip hop or country fans or not, from Michigan, do this all the time.
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> > Paul Johnston
> > On May 16, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Amy West wrote:
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> >> A follow-up . . .
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> >> One of my students who consistently uses "bias" for "biased" is a young
> >> female white Massachusetts native and a country music fan. In checking
> >> out one of her sources here are lyrics from a Toby Keith song wherein he
> >> uses "prejudice" where SE would use "prejudiced":
> >>
> >> Breaks his heart seein' foreign cars
> >>
> >> filled with fuel that isn't ours
> >>
> >> and wearin' cotton we didn't grow....
> >>
> >> He ain't prejudice.
> >>
> >> He's just -- made in America.
> >>
> >> Downes, Lawrence. "Toby Keith's American Dream." /New York Times/ 10
> >> Oct. 2011: A22(L). /Gale Biography In Context/. Web. 16 May 2012.
> >>
> >> So . . . I'm beginning to think that I'm just noticing a dialectal
> >> variant wherein the -ed is being dropped from adjectives. Maybe it's
> >> being picked up from Southern and AAVE dialects via country music and
> >> hip-hop?
> >>
> >> Sorry if this is a) basic and b) obvious.
> >>
> >> ---Amy West
> >>
> >> (And the irony is that she wrote her paper on Southern dialect in
> >> country music. . .) (And the idea of New England country music fans is
> >> just a difficult one for me to wrap my preconceptions around.)
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