Heard on The Doctors: unexpected "positive anymore." Trivia

Benjamin Torbert btorbert at GMAIL.COM
Tue Nov 6 02:37:28 UTC 2012


I moved to Saint Louis in 2007, and anymore, I'm not surprised by anything
anyone does with 'anymore.'

BT

On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Gordon, Matthew J. <GordonMJ at missouri.edu>wrote:

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> I wasn't annoyed in the least by your posting this, and I don't consider
> it a random triviality. I was genuinely interested in your St. Louisan
> perceptions. I'm sorry that I didn't convey that in my reply. I'm still
> interested in whether the unexpectedness was due to the fact that the
> speaker is from St. Louis or whether it was something more specific about
> her social profile. This is one of the features we've been investigating in
> perceptual dialect studies, where we refer to "ignorant presumptions and
> assertions" as "data."
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> -Matt Gordon
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> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Gordon, Matthew J.
> <GordonMJ at missouri.edu> wrote:
> > Why would you label this "unexpected"? Positive anymore's not as common
> in St. Louis as in other parts of the Midlands, but it's not unheard of
> there (per T. Murray's studies). Or is it the fact that a doctor said it
> that's surprising? Since the feature bears little social awareness, I'm not
> surprised to hear it from all social ranks.
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> Are you saying that the fact that my perception of reality has no
> one-to-one and onto mapping onto your perception of reality renders it
> unworthy of consideration, even as a random triviality?
>
> That is real white of you, Professor Gordon.
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> And there's no need to pretend that you have any interest in what
> motivated me to annoy you.
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> I understand, my friend.
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> The ignorant presumptions and assertions of others annoy me, too.
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> to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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