fiction = 'literary prose or poetry'; remit = 'assigned or expected task'

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Tue Nov 20 15:13:24 UTC 2012


Also in the winners' circle was Nicholas Gage's blatantly nonfictional
autobiography, _Eleni_.

JL

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:

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>  > The reader is challenged to figure out for himself from context what the
> writer *really* intends to say
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> My students used to do this all the time. Maybe I should go back and change
> some grades....
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> JL
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> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Jonathan Lighter
> > <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > what Stone or his Times editor really wished to say was that
> > > the panel was to choose "prose and poetry."
> > >
> > > Not *fiction.*
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> > Jon, clarity is no longer a part of "good" writing. The reader is
> > challenged to figure out for himself from context what the writer
> > *really* intends to say, exactly as you've so successfully done.
> >
> > It's the opposite of the dumbing-down done for the benefit of the polloi.
> >
> > Given the continuing rise of SAT scores among the children of the
> > privileged, it's a natural evolutionary progression. As our generation
> > dies off, any problems with this sea-change will simply vanish of
> > themselves.
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