Henry James on Eliot on "a curved ball"
ADSGarson O'Toole
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Thu Oct 4 22:29:32 UTC 2012
Here is some extracted text that I think is from the Atlantic article.
But I cannot see any relevant instances of "curve" or "curved". They
might still be present because search in GB (and all the big OCR
databases) is erratic.
The Atlantic monthly - Volume 144 - Page 599
books.google.com/books?id=_IgRAAAAMAAJ
Making of America Project - 1929 - Snippet view - More editions
http://books.google.com/books?id=_IgRAAAAMAAJ&q=shabbiness#search_anchor
[Begin extracted text]
At a Faculty meeting the President had been commenting on the
shabbiness of the University baseball team, which was undeniable.
Finally he spoke of one man in the team who was, he said, a Special
Student in the Law School, but never attended his classes. 'The
students,' he added, ' like him because he is "up to all the
professional tricks."' After the meeting, ...
[End extracted text]
Garson
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 6:10 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole
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> Great work Joel. The Atlantic article might be the following one which
> is listed in the bibliography of "Higher Education in Transition: A
> History of American Colleges and Universities" (1997):
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> LeBaron Russell Briggs, "President Eliot, as seen by a Disciple,"
> Atlantic Monthly, Vol. 144, November, 1929, p. 597.
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> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>> I got the following from the underground at the Harvard
>> Archives. The page of the James biography has been discussed here
>> before, but I don['t think anyone has tried to follow up the sources
>> the (mole?) says James cites.
>>
>>> In his 1930 biography of Charles W. Eliot (volume 2, page
>>> 69), Henry James relays the story of Eliot's disdain for the
>>> pitcher who delivers a curve ball.
>>>
>>> James cites an October 9, 1883 speech to the Harvard Club
>>> of San Francisco and an Atlantic Monthly article (LeBaron Russell
>>> Briggs, November 1929: 600) as his sources. A quick look at our
>>> holdings has found neither of these sources, although you are
>>> welcome to visit the Archives to conduct a more thorough search in
>>> Eliot's personal papers, presidential records and biographical materials.
>>
>> Joel
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