How is pho really pronounced?

[Tom Zurinskas]

the data on "pho" got scrambled so I put it in a screenr talking file.It illustrates how to use truespel for data reduction.These data are available to folks who want to do phonetic analysis of US English.
http://screenr.com/s8y8

Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now Fl 9.
See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk


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> Of the top 5k words in US English there are only 4 with the tradstreeng "ph=
> o' in them.  The "count" below is out of 15.4 million words in the database=
> .  Not a biggie.  It shows large predominance for ~foe over other choices. =
>  Words beyond the 5k most popular will have counts of 270 or less instances=
> .
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> =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
>   tradspel
>   truespel
>    count
> =20
> =20
>   telephone
>   ~telufoen
>   1749
> =20
> =20
>   phone
>   ~foen
>   1415
> =20
> =20
>   photographs
>   ~foetugrafs
>   576
> =20
> =20
>   photograph
>   ~foetugraf
>   515
> =20
> Tom Zurinskas=2C Conn 20 yrs=2C Tenn 3=2C NJ 33=2C now Fl 9.
> See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk
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> > Poster:       Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
> > Subject:      How is pho really pronounced?
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> > Both Wiktionary and the OED give f + schwa for the pronunciation of "pho"=
>  (Wiktionary actually gives a turned "v"). That matches what I have learned=
>  from a Vietnamese acquaintance and from a Vietnamese restaurant menu in Re=
> no.
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> > Because of what I've been taught=2C that's how I pronounce it=2C but that=
> 's not what I hear from Americans=2C which is "foh."
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> > Which pronunciation is actually used?
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> > Benjamin Barrett
> > Seattle=2C WA
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