"gay" redux

Jeff Prucher jprucher at YAHOO.COM
Mon Oct 29 22:57:12 UTC 2012


"Gay" is The Falcon's first name; the title of the original story was apparently "Gay Falcon". As to what Michael Arlen was thinking by giving him such a name, I leave the speculating to the speculators. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Falcon_%28literary_character%29) Is this another of those formerly male names that have become primarily female?


Jeff Prucher


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>It's unlikely the screenwriter would have chosen the title. Unlike the
>dialogue, the title would almost certainly have been chosen by the studio's
>marketing department. I find it unlikely that they'd be playing such sub
>rosa games with a film's title.
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>But maybe he's in the closet. Then the title would be the screenwriter's way
>of outing him. Then the title would mean he's gay, even if he's not gay in
>the movie. Then somebody can cite the title as an early ex. of gay.
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>> At 10/29/2012 02:01 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>> >I've seen it. He's not gay.
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>> >JL
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>> No, I suppose one would not ever call George Sanders "gay".
>> "Debonair", perhaps.
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>> Joel
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>> > > OK, Jon, you didn't accept "Bringing Up Baby".  What about "The
>> > > Gay Falcon", 1941, starring George Sanders and Wendy Barrie?  (I
>> > > haven't watched it, so all I have is the title.)
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