Henry James on Eliot on "a curved ball"

[Laurence Horn]

On Sep 11, 2012, at 1:47 PM, Garson O'Toole wrote:

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> They boasted of his making a feint to throw a ball in one direction
> and then throwing it in another,
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> I know that this sentence better describes the action of a pitcher
> keeping a runner on base and preventing a stolen base.
> Garson

Indeed.  I wonder if in the 19th century the home team fans yelled "Balk!" every time a visiting pitcher did this, as they have been consistently doing in my own lifetime.

LH

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> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Garson O'Toole
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>> Subject:      Re: Henry James on Eliot on "a curved ball"
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>> Stephen: I've been trying to get the 1930 bio also because it contains
>> a passage that about "deception on the diamond" that is connected to
>> the following action: "making a feint to throw a ball in one direction
>> and then throwing it in another". This is the kind of story that could
>> be used to synthesize the curve ball quote:
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>> Cite: 1930, Charles W. Eliot: President of Harvard University,
>> 1869-1909: Volume 2 by Henry James, GB Page 69, Houghton Mifflin,
>> Boston. (Google Books snippet; Not verified on paper)
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>> "Baseball," said Eliot in 1883, "is only fit for professional players,
>> because success in it  depends chiefly upon one man, the pitcher, who
>> must needs be professionally expert." 1 To pitch a curved ball seemed
>> to him to be a resort to a low form of cunning. Coaching the runner on
>> bases, and interlarding instructions to him with gibes intended to
>> rattle the other side, offended his taste. When, on a certain
>> occasion, a baseball player was put on probation because of a poor
>> record in his classes, Eliot remarked that there was no occasion to
>> regret that he was thereby automatically put off the Nine, because it
>> was admitted that he was a player who resorted to deception on the
>> diamond. Professors Briggs and Wendell, much puzzled by this, went to
>> Eliot to ask what warrant he had for such a statement. "Why!" said the
>> President, drawing himself up and speaking in his most impressive
>> manner, "Why! They boasted of his making a feint to throw a ball in
>> one direction and then throwing it in another!"
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>> Looking forward to seeing what you find. I think you will probably
>> obtain the 1930 book first.
>> Garson
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>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu> wrote:
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>>> I already sent back to storage James' biography of Eliot. But, FWIW, the words "To pitch a curved ball seemed to him to be a resort to a low form of cunning" appear about midway between two sentences with footnotes. It may be that this is James' characterization or memory or paraphrase of Eliot. In other words, possibly, maybe, drawing on personal acquaintance rather than a document.
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