needy
Jonathan Lighter
wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Wed Sep 19 15:10:28 UTC 2012
1993 is pretty damned recent by my standards. I was an experienced grownup
by then, who would have thought it sounded weird had I noticed it that
early.
Anyway, it's more specific as I've heard it than "in need of a thing." I
have heard at least one kid admonished, "Don't be so needy!" (I.e., "quit
whining for attention.")
JL
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> At 9/19/2012 09:26 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> >Cf. the recent disdainful sense of "needy," i.e., "needing or demanding
> >attention from another person."
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> How recent is the disdainful" needy? Or by "recent" do you mean
> "lately becoming more frequent"? The OED has (2.b, "In need of a thing"):
>
> 1993 J. Green It: Sex since Sixties 420 Men are as needy of touch
> as women, if not more so, because they don't get as much as women do.
>
> Close, if not a cigar?
>
> And I have a feeling of its having entered my archives (neurons)
> earlier -- 1950s? 1960s?
>
> Joel
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> >JL
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> >On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Jonathan Lighter
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> > > Subject: victim = 'feckless irresponsible individual'
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> > > Remember how "hero" is expanding to include a kind of victim?
> > >
> > > For the past 24 hours I've heard and read numerous comments to the
> effect
> > > that Mitt Romney "considers 47% of voters to be victims."
> > >
> > > But he doesn't. He said they think of *themselves* as victims. Because
> Mitt
> > > Romney still seems to know what "victim" means .
> > >
> > > Of course, most people want to help victims, but that's not the point.
> The
> > > point is that Romney didn't say that putative people who believe the
> > > government owes them "medical care, food, housing, you name it" are, in
> > > *his* opinion, "victims."
> > >
> > > But that's how the press, pundits, and public are telling it, even when
> > > they go on to clarify the details. GOP as well as Dem pundits. At
> some
> > > level of their consciousness a "victim" is a kind of "loser."
> > >
> > > Nowadays it shows weak character to be a "victim."
> > >
> > > Instead of a "survivor."
> > >
> > > JL
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