Fwd: stroganoffed

[Joel S. Berson]

At 4/2/2013 07:22 AM, Sarah wrote:
>Apparently, he did. Somewhat.

Very little, I think.  "It [criticism] hasn't changed his mind about
how he wrote it: 'I wouldn't do anything differently.' "

As Margaret Sullivan, the Times's "Public Editor", wrote:  "It was
fine for the obituary to point out how unusual it was for a woman to
be a successful rocket scientist at midcentury and what the obstacles
were."  Martin could have started something like "In an era when
women were often only remembered for their domestic skills, Yvonne
Brill combined that with a remarkable career as a rocket
scientist."  And after describing her principal achievement, written
about why she was appreciated by her family.

Joel


>Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Ben Lillie <lillie.ben at gmail.com>
> > Date: April 2, 2013 5:18:57 AM MDT
> > To: Sarah <puellaest at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: stroganoffed
> >
> > Yeah, he doesn't get it:
> http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/01/gender-questions-arise-in-obituary-of-rocket-scientist-and-her-beef-stroganoff/
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Sarah <puellaest at gmail.com> wrote:
> > As there is no need to say what has been said many timed over
> regarding that obit, I just have one question: has Doug Martin made
> any type of statement?
> >
> > (And yes, stroganoffed is about the best thing that could come of that.)
> >
> > Sarah
> >
> > On 2013-04-01, at 2:26 PM, Ben Zimmer wrote:
> >
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> > > Subject:      stroganoffed
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> http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/04/whats-an-obituary-for/274531/
> > > Last week, Yvonne Brill -- a pioneering rocket scientist best known
> > > for her work developing the technologies that help keep our satellites
> > > in orbit -- passed away. And she was, unsurprisingly, given an
> > > obituary inThe New York Times. The first line of that obituary,
> > > though, was a little less unsurprising. Because it originally read
> > > like this: "She made a mean beef stroganoff, followed her husband from
> > > job to job and took eight years off from work to raise three children.
> > > 'The world's best mom,' her son Matthew said."
> > > Oof -- the husband-follower and kid-haver and meat-cooker, who was
> > > also a rocket scientist! This was bad for several reasons, which was
> > > why the Times has since updated its wording. There's the gender issue,
> > > first of all: the fact that it's nearly impossible to imagine a male
> > > scientist of Brill's standing getting stroganoffed in this way.
> > > ---
> > >
> > > The article links to a tweet from Ruth Franklin:
> > >
> > > ---
> > > http://twitter.com/ruth_franklin/status/318209044907192320
> > > well, at least we got a new buzzword out of this: to be "stroganoffed."
> > > ---
> > >
> > > --bgz
> > >
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> > > Ben Zimmer
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