offlist RE: [ADS-L] "put you hep" 1903 (antedating?)

[Wilson Gray]

Thank *you*, Stephen! I'd been trying to use Safari's built-in zoom. I
succeeded in enlarging the page, but it didn't become any more
legible.

IAC, reading the full context of these instance of _hep_ has left me
only more fully persuaded that "put you _hep_ to X" can, indeed, be
regarded as only trivially distinct from and a precursor of, the later
"_hep_ you to X" that I've actually heard used.

Of course, my opinion isn't conclusive, but it possibly rises to the
level of "indicative."

Youneverknow.

Yawl gnome sane. Yawl feel me.

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-Wilson
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All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint
to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
-Mark Twain


On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu> wrote:
> Thanks, Wilson.
> If you wish to enlarge the image, click on the + in the upper left corner, left of the newspaper top.
> And you can move to that column by dragging the cursor while left click on the mouse.
> Stephen
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> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu> wrote:
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>> Subject:      "put you hep" 1903 (antedating?)
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>> Whether this is an antedating (it's earlier than OED), I'm not sure.
>> Both are from The Evening World (New York) via Library of Congress, in the column, "THE MAN HIGHER UP"
>>
>> July 6, 1903 v. 44, right column
>>
>> "Allow me, please, to put you hep to this oceanside thing...."
>>
>> http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030193/1903-07-06/ed-1/seq-10/;words=you+hep?date1=1902&date2=1903&searchType=advanced&language=&proxdistance=5&state=New+York&rows=20&ortext=&proxtext=&phrasetext=+you+hep&andtext=&dateFilterType=yearRange&index=1
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>> Nov. 25, 1903, right column
>>
>> "....With your kind permission and attention I'll put you hep to the finish."
>>
>> http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030193/1903-11-25/ed-1/seq-8/;words=you+hep?date1=1902&date2=1903&searchType=advanced&language=&proxdistance=5&state=New+York&rows=20&ortext=&proxtext=&phrasetext=+you+hep&andtext=&dateFilterType=yearRange&index=0
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> I can't read the original. But, IMO, that's definitely correct use.
>
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> to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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