All right. Now, I understand.

Benjamin Barrett gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM
Wed Jan 2 02:19:14 UTC 2013

On Jan 1, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at> wrote:
>> I pronounce "cauldron" as would crows -- that is,
>> like "caw".  And as does the OED, using a vowel
>> symbol for which it gives as an example
>> "thought".  (Reversed c followed by colon.)
> I agree. So, why rewrite the word as "caldron," as though people were
> suddenly pronouncing the word as "CAL-drun"?

Did you see the part of my post that had an OED citation of "caldron" back to the fifteenth century? Or the part where I said I pronounce it as /ah/ (my general realization of ɔ)?

Either one seems to be adequate as an explanation.

Benjamin Barrett
Seattle, WA

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