"nudiusterian" and "egge"

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Sat Jan 12 19:52:19 UTC 2013


I assume Jesse has noticed that "nudiustertian"
[to spell it correctly] is no longer a hapax
legomenon!  Although it seems merely to be from
"The rantings of a grumpy young man."  I wonder
if he read "The Simple Cobler," and empathisized.

Joel

At 1/12/2013 02:05 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
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>I was actually familiar with this word, but only
>because, by coincidence (or the arrangement of
>the stars), _nudiustertian_ was the selection
>for Anu Garg's A.Word.A.Day mailing January 1 of
>this year, which includes a relatively recent on-the-hoof sighting:
>
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>From: "Wordsmith" <wsmith at wordsmith.org>
>Date: January 1, 2013 12:14:53 AM EST
>To: laurence.horn at yale.edu
>Subject: A.Word.A.Day--nudiustertian
>
>A.Word.A.Day
>with Anu Garg
>
>nudiustertian
>
>PRONUNCIATION:
>(noo-dee-uhs-TUR-shuhn, nyoo-)
>
>MEANING:
>adjective: Of or relating to the day before yesterday.
>
>ETYMOLOGY:
> From Latin nudius tertius, literally, today is
> the third day. Earliest documented use: 1647.
> Also see hesternal (relating to yesterday) hodiernal (relating to today).
>
>USAGE:
>"I'd ordered the key on-line for £48 that
>nudiustertian morning and was not expecting it
>to arrive until the following week."
>Benjamin Nolan; Cyclin' the City; Syniq.co.uk; Aug 22, 2012.
>
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>LH
>
>On Jan 12, 2013, at 1:50 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole wrote:
>
> > The OED has an entry for nudiustertian.
> > Wiktionary has an entry for nudiustertian based on the OED. Here is a link.
> >
> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/nudiustertian
> >
> > Here is the OED etymology but the text/font may be scrambled in transit:
> >
> > nudiustertian, adj.
> >
> > Etymology:  < classical Latin nudiustertiānus (2nd cent. a.d.) <
> > nudius tertius the day before yesterday, lit. ‘today the third day’,
> > counting inclusively ( < nudius ( < nu- ( < the same Indo-European
> > base as now adv.) + diūs , old nominative form subsequently replaced
> > by diēs : see diurnal adj. and n.) + tertius third: see tertius adj.)
> > + -ānus -an suffix.
> >
> > Obs. rare - 1.
> >
> >  Of or relating to the day before yesterday.
> >
> > 1647   N. Ward Simple Cobler Aggawam 26   When I heare a..Gentledame
> > inquire..what [is] the nudiustertian fashion of the Court; I mean the
> > very newest.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> >> Poster:       "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at ATT.NET>
> >> Subject:      Re: "nudiusterian" and "egge"
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> >>
> >> I have just come upon a commentary on "The Simple Cobler" that reads
> >> "nudiusterian" as two words, meaning "day before yesterday".  Agreed?
> >>
> >> Joel
> >>
> >>> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:49:07 -0500
> >>> To: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >>> From: "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at att.net>
> >>> Subject: "nudiusterian" and "egge"
> >>>
> >>> In The Simple Cobler of Aggavvamm, Nathaniel Ward wrote "but when I
> >>> heare a nugiperous Gentledame inquire what dresse the Queen is in
> >>> this week : what the nudiusterian fashion of the Court; with egge to
> >>> be in it in all haste, whatever it be; I look at her as the very
> >>> gizzard of a trifle [and so forth]."  (4th ed., 1647, p. 26.)
> >>>
> >>> Is there a consensus on what Ward meant by "nudiusterian"?  I'd like
> >>> it to be something like "newest, most recent".
> >>>
> >>> And I suppose "egge" is "eager".
> >>>
> >>> Joel
> >>
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