"down train"
Joel S. Berson
Berson at ATT.NET
Sun Jan 13 20:33:29 UTC 2013
At 1/13/2013 02:19 PM, James A. Landau <JJJRLandau at netscape.com> wrote:
>Reverend Spooner is supposed to have told a student "You have hissed
>my mystery lectures. You have tasted an entire worm. You will
>leave on the next town drain" implying the existence of a "down train".
It's not clear whether James was wondering, but I did --
A. In a University context:
The quotation, according to Wikipedia, is "You have hissed all my
mystery lectures. You have tasted a whole worm. Please leave Oxford
on the next town drain." Spooner (1894--1930) was Warden of New
College, Oxford.
Dismissed students were "sent down". OED "to send down", "2. To
compel (an undergraduate) to leave the University (permanently or for
a specified time), as a punishment."
I imagine Spooner's "down train" was the train which his target was
supposed to promptly take.
B. Not from The Universities, but from the OED:
"down, adj." "1.c. Of a train or coach: Going 'down', i.e. away from
the central or chief terminus; in Great Britain, from London. Hence
transf. Of or pertaining to down trains, as the down platform
." Earliest quotation 1840.
C. Questions:
C1. Which way is "down" in England?
Answer: Away from the center (of population, business,
transportation, learning, etc.)
C2: Which way is "downtown"?
Answer: Toward (or at) the central part of the city. See OED, "downtown".
Joel
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