To/in press/print

[Laurence Horn]

On Jan 14, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Joel S. Berson wrote:

> At 1/14/2013 12:09 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
>>
>> > Doesn't a book "go to press" *before* it "is in print"?  And I find
>> > it a bit hard to say a book "is in press"
>>
>> As far as I know, this is the standard term for a book at the point
>> when it's in the publisher's hands (after the galleys have been
>> submitted in final form) and it hasn't yet appeared in print.  It is
>> so cited in bibliographies, e.g.
>>
>> Hall, Joan Houston et al., eds.  In press.  Dictionary of American
>> Regional English, Vol. VI. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press.
>
> Yes, "in press" is standard.  All I meant was *I* wouldn't *speak*
> it.  (I don't often speak bibliographical citations.)   I would speak
> "the book is at the press".  A professional in the publishing
> business would presumably say "the book is in press".
>
> In any case, "in press" and "in print" are two different times, which
> is part of what both I and (I believe) Larry are saying.
>
> Joel

Yes; the only difference is that would describe a book of mine, or a book/journal issue with an article of mine, as being in press under the conditions described above.  For me "the book/article is at the press" seems less natural--what's it doing there, anyway?

LH
>
>
>> Once it's in print, then of course it's cited by year of
>> appearance.  As I mentioned, this is an aspectual classification:
>> "in press" is closer to appearance than "forthcoming" or "to appear".
>>
>> LH
>>
>> > or "goes to
>> > print".  Perhaps "is in the press" (meaning not yet published, but my
>> > preference is "at the press".  And "goes to print" I think I would
>> > only use in contrast to going somewhere else, such as "to electrons".
>> >
>> > Joel
>> >
>> > At 1/13/2013 11:07 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 8:28 PM, [not] Laurence Horn
>> >> <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
>> >> >> I always thought newspapers went to press, but books went to print. Am
>> >> >> I mistaken?
>> >>
>> >> Damfino. I've always made a distinction between going "to press," and
>> >> being "in print" as relevant to any publication, without ever
>> >> considering "going to print" at all. But that doesn't make me right.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> -Wilson
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