Heard: "I'm on *your* guys's side!" [NT]

Neal Whitman nwhitman at AMERITECH.NET
Wed Jan 23 17:21:55 UTC 2013


I've definitely heard "your guys's" in the wild, and have noted its doubly marked possessive at the time.

Neal

On Jan 23, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

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> On the other hands, the form "guys's'" *is* weird - but not uncommon in
> "you guys's."
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> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Jonathan Lighter
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>> Sounds a little odd but not impossible.
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>> JL
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>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com>
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>>> Unless "you guys" has grammaticalized as a second plural pronoun, as it
>>> seems to have in some Northern dialects.  I know I've used expressions
>> like
>>> "you guys side" but "your guys side" feels odd, with or without the "'s."
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>>> Herb
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>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com
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>>>> Thank you. Now I see the issue.
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>>>> If my buddy is rooting for team X, then one meaning of "your guys's
>> side"
>>>> is the side of my buddy's guys. I think that's okay.
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>>>> But even so, if I have two friends rooting for team X, and I am, too,
>>> then
>>>> "I'm on your guys's side" sounds right. I don't think I would even say
>>> "you
>>>> guys's side" though I agree that it doesn't make sense when analyzed.
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>>>> Benjamin Barrett
>>>> Seattle, WA
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>>>> On Jan 23, 2013, at 12:00 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Benjamin Barrett <
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>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> If that's the plural second person possessive, that sounds right to
>>> me,
>>>> but what do the asterisks mean?...
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>>>>> Stress, like,
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>>>>> "I'm on YOUR guys's side!"
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>>>>> as opposed to those guys's side.
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>>>>> You would say "on your guys's side" and not "on your side" or "on you
>>>>> guys' side"? You'd combine the two, using "you guys's"? Interesting.
>>>>> You wouldn't write the combo version, though, right?
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