Heard: "I'm on *your* guys's side!" [NT]

[Herb Stahlke]

There is also the northern Ohio and upstate NY "youse guys."  Alluding to
another thread, I've heard "youse" with both /s/ and /z/, although I have
no idea what the distribution of these variants might be.  "Youse guys"
also gets used as a possessive.

Herb


On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at ameritech.net>wrote:

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> I've definitely heard "your guys's" in the wild, and have noted its doubly
> marked possessive at the time.
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> Neal
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> On Jan 23, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
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> > On the other hands, the form "guys's'" *is* weird - but not uncommon in
> > "you guys's."
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> > JL
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> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Jonathan Lighter
> > <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
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> >> Sounds a little odd but not impossible.
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> >> JL
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> >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com>
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> >>> Unless "you guys" has grammaticalized as a second plural pronoun, as it
> >>> seems to have in some Northern dialects.  I know I've used expressions
> >> like
> >>> "you guys side" but "your guys side" feels odd, with or without the
> "'s."
> >>>
> >>> Herb
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> >>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Benjamin Barrett <
> gogaku at ix.netcom.com
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> >>>> Thank you. Now I see the issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> If my buddy is rooting for team X, then one meaning of "your guys's
> >> side"
> >>>> is the side of my buddy's guys. I think that's okay.
> >>>>
> >>>> But even so, if I have two friends rooting for team X, and I am, too,
> >>> then
> >>>> "I'm on your guys's side" sounds right. I don't think I would even say
> >>> "you
> >>>> guys's side" though I agree that it doesn't make sense when analyzed.
> >>>>
> >>>> Benjamin Barrett
> >>>> Seattle, WA
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 23, 2013, at 12:00 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Benjamin Barrett <
> >>> gogaku at ix.netcom.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> If that's the plural second person possessive, that sounds right to
> >>> me,
> >>>> but what do the asterisks mean?...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Stress, like,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "I'm on YOUR guys's side!"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> as opposed to those guys's side.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You would say "on your guys's side" and not "on your side" or "on you
> >>>>> guys' side"? You'd combine the two, using "you guys's"? Interesting.
> >>>>> You wouldn't write the combo version, though, right?
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