Hyphenating "urinary bladder stones"

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Mon Jul 15 14:18:05 UTC 2013


At 7/15/2013 09:02 AM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>More alarming would be stones of the non-urinary bladder.
>
>LH

Those would be stones of the gall bladder, which I think are less
alarming than urinary bladder stones.  And in fact the reason I
needed to add "urinary" to "bladder stones" was to distinguish the
two sites when discussing the first lithotomy performed in the North
American colonies, in 1707.  (I suspect, but without any knowledge,
that these two types of stones require different surgical methods,
and that removal of gallstones is more difficult.  It seems to have
been first performed some years later, in 1743.)

Joel


>On Jul 15, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
>
> > I was going to address the distinguished members as "youse guys", but ...
> >
> > None of the four combinations for hyphenating/not hyphenating
> > "urinary bladder stones" looks/sounds good to me when written/said. I
> > will have to write "stones of the urinary bladder".   ;-|
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > At 7/14/2013 09:12 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
> >> On Jul 14, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Victor Steinbok
> >> <aardvark66 at gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I wouldn't have hyphenated "you-all"
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Why not? I would have. What other way is there to spell it to get the
> >> > required meaning?
> >>
> >> Well, y'all, sort of, but I agree with your implicit point--that's
> >> not a different way to spell *it*, given the (sometimes subtle but
> >> real) differences between "you-all" and "y'all".  The latter
> >> sometimes represented as "ya'll", but that just seems weird. And
> >> "you all" sans hyphen doesn't really pick out the second personal plural.
> >>
> >> LH
> >>
> >> > This has been the usual way of spelling it for at least
> >> > the past century.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > -Wilson
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> >> > come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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