immersive

[Dan Goncharoff]

I see two distinct uses of the word.

In the link provided earlier, as well as the many links one can find using
the word to refer to Zero Dark Thirty, the word is describing how the movie
was made:

http://www.emanuellevy.com/comment/zero-dark-thirty-extreme-locations/
"The result is a camera that is alive and immersive, hand-held, which
creates an intimacy and rough-hewn quality."

http://www.filmcomment.com/entry/review-zero-dark-thirty-kathryn-bigelow
"Such banalities of either ideological stripe would be wholly out of
keeping with the film’s fascinated, dedicated, immersive closeness to
phenomena, events, atmospheres, to the things themselves. The film is in
love with the details of what it is disclosing; Zero Dark Thirty shows but
refuses to tell."

This is NOT a usage that is just a synonym for "riveting" or "engaging" or
"engrossing".

DanG


On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:

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> "Engrossing" is good.
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> > At 3/17/2013 10:14 AM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
> > >...
> > >I still disagree with your description of the recent use of immersive as
> > >meaning "riveting".
> >
> > For a definition of this sense of "immersive", I would look to the
> > "being swallowied up" notion, as in "engulfing" (which has similar
> senses).
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > >I read as a style of movie making that focuses on
> > >intimate details. You see that in the movie review you linked to, as
> well
> > >as in the many uses of the word with respect to Zero Dark Thirty.
> > >
> > >I did find an older usage in a blog post that corresponds to your
> > >description, but I don't think that is a common usage:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://forums.philosophyforums.com/threads/list-of-strange-and-immersive-movies-20751.html
> > >Movies with scenes that raise shivers up your spine, thought provoking
> > >films, complex plots, amazing direction, anything you feel is an
> immersive
> > >experience.
> > >
> > >
> > >DanG
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Jonathan Lighter
> > ><wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
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> > > > The technical sense presumably came first, but here it means
> > "thoroughly
> > > > absorbing." Anything more would be distracting and gratuitous.
> > > >
> > > > Try this for size:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.moviemail.com/blog/cinema-reviews/1009-Elena-immersive-filmmaking-from-the-director-of-The-Return/
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.moviemail.com/blog/cinema-reviews/1009-Elena-immersive-filmmaking-from-the-director-of-The-Return/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Come to think of it, the word may have started its comeback long ago
> in
> > > > connection with "full-immersion" language teaching.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > JL
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
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> > > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
> > > > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > immersive
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have seen the word defined in many places, like this:
> > > > >
> > > > > adjective
> > > > > noting or pertaining to digital technology or images that deeply
> > involve
> > > > > one's senses and may create an altered mental state:
> immersivemedia;
> > > > > immersive 3-D environments.
> > > > >
> > > > > *http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/immersive*
> > > > > *
> > > > > *
> > > > > This is very different from your definition, and I think it
> conforms
> > > > better
> > > > > to its use.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > DanG
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