Heard on "Judge Mathis": [Inz] "money"

[Wilson Gray]

> HDAS, based on print, opts for "ends."

It's in HDAS? I looked there first, as would any reasonable being. A second
check and a third reveal end, endo, endo, endsville. WTF? Am I blinder than
I realize? From what date? What's the cite?

> (Maybe because you have to make 'em meet?)

As good an etymology as any other.

Unless your date is earlier than 1940 or so, I'm Ockham's-Razoring it and
going by the pronunciation and the fact that I've never heard it used in
the wild in any context that might provide any kind of clue as to the
sound's lexical origin. So, I'm thinking of it as _ins_. OTOH, if your date
is ca. 1940 or so, I'm switching to _ends_. Back in those days, there may
have been people around who actually *knew* how it should be spelled. Or
not.

Youneverknow.

I had a Facebook exchange with M.I.T. contemporary who is now the head of
the longuistics department. He's a mere generation my junior. Yet, he says
that he was totally unaware of any distinction of any kind between _loved_
and _beloved_ beyond the fact that one of them has a prefix that causes it
to be disyllabic. For him,

Dave is loved by his students

and

Dave is beloved by his students

are distinguished solely by the presence of the prefix, _be_. My assertion
that there was even a single person who that there was any distinction to
be made beyond that was a complete surprise to him.

And the exchange began when I complimented him on his having posted an
extremely-rare examples of the proper use of "beloved." His response was

"??"


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:

> ---------------------- Information from the mail header
> -----------------------
> Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Poster:       Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject:      Re: Heard on "Judge Mathis": [Inz] "money"
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> HDAS, based on print, opts for "ends."
>
> (Maybe because you have to make 'em meet?)
>
> JL
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > ---------------------- Information from the mail header
> > -----------------------
> > Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > Poster:       Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
> > Subject:      Heard on "Judge Mathis": [Inz] "money"
> >
> >
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > A gigolo being for the recovery of money is explaining to JM that he
> can't
> > mount a proper defense for fear of embarrassing his patron.
> >
> > The Judge replies to the effect that
> >
> > "I know you don't want to be doing nothing like that, 'cause you want to
> be
> > able to go back and get you some more of them _[Inz]_ from her!"
> >
> > I've heard [Inz} used to mean "money" since I was a child. But, for the
> > obvious reason of the problem of slang compounded by dialect, I have no
> > idea whether the word is "ends" or "ins," since semantic development is
> > nugatory in either case. Money is the means to any _end. Money gets you
> > _in_. At the _end_ of a job, you get money. Money _in_ your pocket. The
> > means are your_ends_. With _ins_ you don't worry about being on the outs.
> >
> > UD has both _ends_ and _ins_ as "money." Quelle surprise! One poster
> > asserts "< make ends (meet)."
> >
> > As good a WAG as any other.
> >
> > This was one of the few times that I've found anything ancient in UD
> that's
> > also relatively rare, to the extent that I was surprised Mathis used
> [inz],
> > he being much younger than I and it was never as hip as, e.g. _bread_.
> >
> > Google has nothing old enough to provide evidence for an etymology.
> > --
> > -Wilson
> > -----
> > All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
> > come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> > -Mark Twain
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "If the truth is half as bad as I think it is, you can't handle the truth."
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
>



--
-Wilson
-----
All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
-Mark Twain

------------------------------------------------------------
The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org