_long-dick_

Fri Nov 15 12:48:03 UTC 2013

Wilson, not for one moment did I think you were pissin' and dissin' about
HDAS.

I was simply regretting the fact that if I'd thrown together one more
half-baked, half-assed, half-careful slang dictionary it would be finished
and I could've included anything I felt like, real or quasi.

A further regret is that, back then, I (and thus the great world) had no
access to your store of unique vernacular lowdown.

JL

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:23 PM, hw gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> > Ah, Wilson, Wilson, it isn't in HDAS *solely* because I had only one
> > citation.
>
> Ah, Jon, Jon, my only point was to demonstrate that I had consulted the
> Bible, instead of merely going off semi-penised with a claim even more
> unfounded than necessary, and not to point out a supposed "deficiency" in
> it. You have no idea how often prior consultation of the HDAS has prevented
> me from wasting even more of the list's time than I do already! I meant no
> disrespect, Godfather!
>
> Book fukkin amazin!
>
> > To "fancy-fuck" didn't make the cut either.
>
> And rightly so, IMO, though I realize that a scholarly work can't be edited
> so as to exclude information merely because that information is lame, in
> the compiler's opinion. I haven't come across that one, before. With any
> luck, I won't come across it, again. ;-)
>
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> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
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> > Ah, Wilson, Wilson, it isn't in HDAS *solely* because I had only one
> > citation.
> >
> > I almost included it anyway, but feared I would be accused of gratuitous
> > lexicopornology.
> >
> > The word appeared in an undergraduate collection called "Folklore of the
> > United States Marine Corps," compiled by Don Higginbotham at Indiana
> > University just around 1962
> >
> > I recall this because in the days before the Net, people had to travel to
> > far distant libraries in order to research certain subjects.
> >
> > I also remember it because the phrase that Higginbotham recorded from vox
> > populi was the then moderately striking "I may not can long-dick you but
> I
> > can sure fancy-fuck you."  (Today I assume it's an ordinary form of
> > self-introduction to an unattached person.) (Old-timey me! I almost said
> > "unattached female.")
> >
> > To "fancy-fuck" didn't make the cut either.
> >
> > Hmmmmm....sounds like an early ex. of the to "random-fire" and to
> > "barefoot-run" verboconstructophenomenon.
> >
> > JL
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:09 AM, hw gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > While I was awash in idle thought, the verb, "to long-dick" popped into
> > my
> > > head. I first heard this used by the "big boys" (boys a couple of years
> > > older and/or a couple of grades higher than my boys and I were. I've
> been
> > > assuming that this use of "big boys" is universal, but perhaps it's
> not.
> > > Youneverknow) probably around The End of The War;
> > >
> > > "I wasn't just getting some pussy! I was steady *long*-dickin'!" "Soon
> as
> > > she dropped her drawers, I was long-dickin' my ass off.!" "I whaled a
> > > *while*, y'all, long-dickin' all night long!"
> > >
> > > I don't know whether anyone else has been on this situation, but
> > everybody
> > > but me seemed to know what "long-dicking" was. So, I didn't want to
> > square
> > > off/lame out by asking what it was. I thought that, with the passage of
> > > time, its meaning would become clear. That has not happened. It's not
> in
> > > HDAS. It's in Google and in the UD. The definitions in the latter are
> > just
> > > random bullshit, crap that I would have made up, if someone had put a
> gun
> > > to my head and ordered, "Define it or die!" There's even one that
> claims
> > > that it means to pick up chicks. Google has stuff like "...
> > 'long-dicking,'
> > > as the black men say ..."
> > >
> > > My conclusion is that it's just a standard brag that the boyz N the
> 'hood
> > > have been using since at least The War. Like "I popped my
> dick-string!",
> > > it's tossed into stories real or imagined about all the pussy that the
> > bruz
> > > be getting, just to add color. It has no meaning.
> > >
> > > Heard on Springer:
> > >
> > > He: "Why you wanna put me down"?
> > > She: " 'Cause you steady downing me!"
> > >
> > > I don't know where the couple was - _couple_ is a Singular in my
> dialect
> > -
> > > from, but the use of _put me down_ as "break up with me" and of
> _downing
> > > me_ as "putting me down" matches the StL BE of my forlorn youth.
> > > --
> > > -Wilson
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