"sling arms" (not in OED2) -- [1749], 1824
Dan Goncharoff
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Thu Apr 17 17:41:33 UTC 2014
I am getting confused by the discussion -- why wouldn't a sword be carried
in a sling, and therefore be 'slung'?
DanG
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> At 4/17/2014 10:53 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> >Presumably the collocation long preceded the command.
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> It would be good to check EEBO and ECCO for "sling arms" and
> variants. My limited search did not find it at an early date in GBooks.
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> >One could easily sling a bow and a quiver, for example.
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> True, the bow hoist by its own petard (so to speak) rather than a
> separate sling.
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> Joel
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> >On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Amy West <medievalist at w-sts.com> wrote:
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> > > On 4/17/14, 12:00 AM, Automatic digest processor wrote:
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> > > > From: "Joel S. Berson"<Berson at ATT.NET>
> > > > Subject: Re: "sling arms" (not in OED2) -- [1749], 1824
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> > > > Dan,
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> > > > I think this is the best interpretation yet. I don't find "sl?ng*
> > > > arm*" in the OED or "sling arms" before 1824 ("Constitution of the
> > > > New England Guards", p. 54, a command) in GBooks. But John Gittins's
> > > > "A compleat System of Military Discipline" (1735), p. 14, does have a
> > > > command "Sling your Firelock" (certainly an Arm) -- hang the firelock
> > > > and "let fall your Hands to your Sides".
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> > > > Joel
> > > It makes sense as a command for long firearms as they have slings on
> > > them. Not so much for spear & sword, and I haven't heard a command like
> > > that in 1630s pike drill.
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