Yet more angst of lack of words for X

[Benjamin Barrett]

That's right, but the significance of it is that it's used in English. BB

On Aug 19, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> In fact the 1621 example isn't English, but Greek.
> 
> Looks like the English word may have been coined in 1955 and the cyberworld
> has recently discovered it.
> 
> Coined presumably because "Schadenfreude" was untranslatable in English.
> 
> JL
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:
> 
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>> Wiktionary (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:epicaricacy) has =
>> citations over the past decade, plus
>> =E1=BC=90=CF=80=CE=B9=CF=87=CE=B1=CE=B9=
>> =CF=81=CE=B5=CE=BA=CE=B1=CE=BA=CE=AF=CE=B1 in English in 1621 and a =
>> mention of epicaricacy in 1955. (On Wiktionary, mention of a word is =
>> treated differently from use of a word.) BB
>> 
>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> =
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> On Aug 19, 2014, at 3:37 PM, victor steinbok wrote:
>>> =20
>>>> This one a bit more reasonable than most -- almost contrarian to
>>>> "conventional wisdom".
>>>> =3D20
>>>> http://goo.gl/X5jRD4
>>>> =3D20
>>>> The punchline should be revealing:
>>>> =3D20
>>>>> I'm still looking for one more ... a word for the mistaken belief =3D
>>> that
>>>> there is no English equivalent for a non-English word, such as
>>>> Schadenfreude, which many people believe doesn't translate, but which =
>> =3D
>>> of
>>>> course simply means epicaricacy. Suggestions welcome.
>>>> =3D20
>>> =20
>>> "Epicaricacy", a new one on me, does show up via Googling with the =3D
>>> relevant gloss, but isn't in the OED, and dictionary.com thought I =
>> must =3D
>>> have meant "epicranium".
>>> =20
>>> LH
>> 

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