[Ads-l] Dim sum stress

[Joel S. Berson]

Sum stresses are dim.

At 12/30/2014 11:58 PM, Benjamin Barrett wrote:
>Thank you all for the kind responses.
>
>I've been looking at videos on YouTube to look at this issue 
>further. Stress on the second syllable:
>
>1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rbl_i3VFIk, about 2:47 in.
>2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olGNcFoFrX4, 0:14 and 0:34 (two 
>different speakers)
>3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZIH6NroQxk, 0:20
>
>Both syllables:
>1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4saj_U_OYA, about 0:27
>2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pEAPDMHx9A, 0:20
>3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN1PvROBPUA, 0:57, very clear
>
>First syllable:
>1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFWI6NRUy_c, 0:10
>2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5whWOOjC4, 6:19
>
>I have vague recollections at being terrified of stress questions in 
>elementary school because I so often got them wrong, but hopefully 
>this selection provides all three patterns even if they are 
>completely miscategorized. BB
>>David Daniel <mailto:david at COARSECOURSES.COM>
>>December 30, 2014 at 5:23 PM
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>>Poster:       David Daniel<david at COARSECOURSES.COM>
>>Subject:      Re: Dim sum stress
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>>Hmmm. I've always heard it/said it "dim SUM". This covers L.A., San
>>Francisco, London, and (maybe) Chicago (not 100% sure about Chicago). My
>>daughter, who lives in New York, says New York says "DIM sum".
>>DAD
>>
>>Poster:       Barbara Need<bhneed at GMAIL.COM>
>>Subject:      Re: Dim sum stress
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>>I have also always heard this with the primary stress on the first
>>syllable.
>>
>>Barbara
>>
>>Etna, NY
>>
>>>Poster:       Benjamin Barrett<gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
>>>Subject:      Dim sum stress
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>>>The Oxford Dictionary site gives "dim sum" with
>>>
>>>- the accent on the second syllable in the British/World English
>>>dictionary
>>(http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/dim-sum?q=dim+sum&sear
>> > chDictCode=all
>> >> )
>>>and
>>>- a secondary accent on the first syllable and primary accent on the
>>>second in the American dictionary
>>>(http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/dim-
>>> >> sum).
>>>
>>>The primary stress on the second syllable matches the accent
>>>provided on
>>>Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dim_sum) but I have always
>>>know
>>>this to be pronounced with the primary accent on the first syllable.
>>>
>>>What's more, in the following video, produced by the British Council,
>>>two people are in London's Chinatown and they both pronounce it as
>>>"DIM
>>>sum" at about 1:18 in:
>>>
>>>http://learnenglish.britishcouncil.org/pt-br/node/2560
>>>
>>>Is second-syllable stress a common way to pronounce this term?
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