No more the "awe" sound in USA

[Jonathan Lighter]

CNN speaks today mostly of the "Seahawks," not the dreaded "Seahocks."

Though they do seem to come closer to / a / than I'd like.

Interviewed fans still said "aw," bless 'em.

JL




On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:

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> I see the Hallmark channel today is featuring -- and refeaturing, and
> refeaturing, all day -- the "Kitten Bowl".  How will I be able to
> react vocally, if I am deprived of "aw"?  Or emotionally, if there is
> no longer "awe"?
>
> Joel
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> At 2/2/2014 07:38 AM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
> >Awe-dropping is pernicious.  I've even heard Dawn Zimmer call
> >herself Don.  The moderator of a group on MSNBC started off saying
> >Dawn ~Daun then when guests started saying "Don" ~Daan he ended up
> >doing it too.
> >It's pernicious.  It's psychological.   It's almost as though some
> >folks think the "awe" sound is not a nice sound and refuse to say
> >it.  It's beneath them. I think it's mainly with the ladies,
> >although that's contrary to their adoption of creaky voice sound,
> >which to me is a fake fad and not a nice sound.
> >Is it right to want to save the awe sound.  Some say no because it's
> >like going against nature and natural progression.  But is creaky
> >voice a natural progression.  Is it not right to care.  Or is it not
> >right to scoff at those who care.   There is no benefit I can
> >foresee for awe-dropping.  I'd certainly like to participate in any
> >way to save the "awe" phoneme.  But how?  By not overtly correcting
> >the mispronunciation, which nobody likes to do, is it condoning it;
> >Like the stupid fad of cigarette smoking in the past.
> >Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now Fl 9.
> >See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk
> >
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> > > On Feb 1, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Benjamin Barrett wrote:
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> > > > It would be interesting to see if people without the cot/caught
> > merger adopt the merger pronunciation for "Seahawks" (and "hawk" in
> > general) as a result of the Superbowl.
> > > >
> > > > Benjamin Barrett
> > > > Formerly of Seattle, WA
> > >
> > > They won't get to me.  'Hawks they are and 'Hawks they will
> > remain, win or lose.
> > >
> > > But you can't go by me; I'll never even merge my Maries, marries,
> > and merries.
> > >
> > > LH
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Learn Ainu! https://sites.google.com/site/aynuitak1/videos
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 1, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at AMERITECH.NET>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I was wondering how long it'd be before I read a message here
> > about the Seahocks and awe-dropping.
> > > >>
> > > >> Neal
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Feb 1, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Is the "awe" phoneme too far gone to save.
> > > >>> =20
> > > >>> The Super bowl team name is "Seahawks".  How many times do we
> > here "hocks" =
> > > >>> instead of "hawks".
> > > >>> =20
> > > >>> Her name is "Dawn Zimmer" regarding the NJ scandals.  How
> > many times do we =
> > > >>> here "Don" vs "Dawn".
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