Still pumpin' 'em out after all these years

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Wed Feb 5 16:24:50 UTC 2014


To be sure, the OED sense 2 for "new", adj. is 'Not previously known or experienced; now known or experienced for the first time', with cites going back to the Venerable Bede himself, which would certainly fit.  But I still think in this context it's a displaced adverb on some level.

L

On Feb 5, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

> They're "new" not for being "recently created" but for being "previously
> unknown."
>
> Me: "Look, Mr. Darwin! I've found another new species!"
>
> He: "You moron! That species must be a hundred million years old!"
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> Me: "Funny - he doesn't look a day over fifty thousand."
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> JL
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> JL
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> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:
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>> poems newly discovered ==> new poems discovered
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>> Maybe related to "an occasional passerby" or "raised an inquisitive
>> eyebrow", a construction that Arnold could identify for us...
>>
>> ...Just checked, and in fact Arnold already did, in reference to
>> extramarital toes being sucked 7 years ago:
>> http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/005186.html
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>> It's called "displaced epithet" or "hypallage".  Not quite the same as
>> Sappho's new poems being discovered, but a constructional cousin.
>>
>> LH
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>> On Feb 5, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>>> "Old poems" would have been more accurate, but then nobody would give a
>>> ****.
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>>> JL
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>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:54 AM, W Brewer <brewerwa at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> <<Two new poems written by seventh-century BC Greek poet Sappho are
>>>> discovered.>> -----Wikipedia.
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