"two reasons for doing anything"

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Tue Feb 11 04:54:31 UTC 2014


On Feb 10, 2014, at 10:35 PM, Shapiro, Fred wrote:

> You're a tough guy to please, Jon.  It is in the index under "reasons."

Or as Pascal once (almost) said, somewhere in the YBQ, "L'index a ses 'raisons' que la raison ne connait pas."

LH
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> Thanks for the citation, Fred. But it isn't in the index under "reason."
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> JL
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> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>wrote:
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>> The Yale Book of Quotations has the following:
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>> A man always has two reasons for what he does -- a good one, and the real
>> one.
>> J. P. Morgan, Quoted in Owen Wister, Roosevelt: The Story of a Friendship
>> (1930)
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>> Fred Shapiro
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>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 8:23 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>>> I don't see this in the archives, though I've been thinking about it for
>> a
>>> long time.
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>>> Many years ago I was told that Sigmund Freud had once said, "There are
>>> always two reasons for doing anything: a good reason and the real
>> reason."
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>>> Sounds like Freud in principle, but not in style.
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>>> Google Books wants to attribute it to J. P. Morgan, but Morgan died in
>> 1913
>>> and the "reported" quote doesn't show up till 1940.
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>>> A few minutes ago I was watching a short film on TCM called "Teddy the
>>> Rough Rider" (1947). It shows Theodore Roosevelt insisting, "A man always
>>> has two reasons for whatever he does: a good one and the real one."
>>>
>>> This attribution is presumably bogus as well, but evidently the quote
>>> gained traction in the 1940s.
>>>
>> Or three reasons for doing anything--the right reason, the wrong reason,
>> and the Army reason?
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>> LH
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