Raleigh, N.C. -- awesome or aw-dropping?

[Paul Johnston]

No.  I am a [po at li], so there's no low-vowel merger there.  Rawley is [ro at li].  I have the usual NYC area pattern.

Paul(ie)
On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:14 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU> wrote:

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> On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:11 AM, Paul Johnston wrote:
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>> Script a for me, even with Sir Walter.
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> But I assume these wouldn't be homophonous with "Rawley" or rhyme with Jane Pauley (or a putative self-diminutive Paulie) for you, right?
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> LH
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>> On Feb 12, 2014, at 10:46 PM, "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
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>>> At 2/12/2014 08:47 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>>>> I suspect I've gone back and forth on Raleigh (North Carolina, Sir
>>>> Walter, cigarettes, whatever), between Rollie (which I pronounce
>>>> with an [a], or really script a, vowel as in the first name of the
>>>> ex-A's/Brewers' relief pitcher Fingers) and Rawley.  I think I might
>>>> be more likely to use the open-o for Sir Walter Raleigh because of
>>>> the rounding in his first name, more so than in the snow- and
>>>> ice-bound N.C. city.   It's hard for me to be sure exactly how I
>>>> tend to pronounce these unselfconsciously, though. (
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>>> I find that I react (recoil?) when I *hear* a pronunciation that's
>>> not mine, but like LH am unsure about my own pronunciation when I
>>> deliberately think about it or speak it out.  I've begun to trust my
>>> first reaction and discount my experiments.
>>>
>>> Joel
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>>>> (No danger of "awe"-extinction for me, though--I would never merge
>>>> the pronunciation of "Cawley" (as in the late Jim McCawley) and
>>>> "collie", for example.)
>>>>
>>>> LH
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>>>> On Feb 12, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
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>>>>> Raleigh, North Carolina, is much in the news this moment for its
>>>>> proximity to North Carolinians of stupidity (to paraphrase its
>>>>> governor).  I hear announcers saying "Rollie" (almost "Rah-lee", but
>>>>> not quite?).  I learned "Raw-lee".  Is that because I'm an effete
>>>>> (North-)* Easterner?  Or did I learn it from hearing pre-modern announcers?
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>>>>> * South-Easterners' methods may differ.
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>>>>> Joel
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