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[Victor Steinbok]

I've noticed conflicting usage in the last decade or so. One is indeed
along GT's outline. But there's a particular "underground" sense where a
dive bar would be fashionable among a particular kind of clientele. It's
hard to describe, but it cannot be truly upscale, must be fairly well
priced, serve particular kinds of drinks, including retro cocktails and
exude a certain kind of "dive" atmosphere. Merely calling it
"fashionable" is not enough. But it does appear to reflect a common GenY
reversal.

     VS-)


On 1/7/2014 4:07 AM, Benjamin Barrett wrote:
> Good question. It might be a retronym to distinguish it from dive restaurants. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dive says "A seedy bar, nightclub, etc."
>
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:49 AM, John Doe <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com>wrote:
>>
>>> dive bar
>>
>> In what way does a "dive *bar*" distinguish itself from an ordinary "dive"?
>

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