because info

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Wed Jan 8 20:33:00 UTC 2014


Oops.  MSNBC's Rachel Maddow a few days ago said "...because North Korea."   You need to know the context to have it make sense.

Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now Fl 9.
See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk



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> I'm not familiar with "because x".  I've never seen this structure before. =
>   I think it's bad grammar and don't like it.  How was it chosen WOTY?  Wha=
> t were the other words?  So does this mean that ADS legitimates and applaud=
> s it's use.  Because very bad.
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> Tom Zurinskas=2C Conn 20 yrs=2C Tenn 3=2C NJ 33=2C now Fl 9.
> See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk
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> > Date: Mon=2C 6 Jan 2014 13:49:33 -0500
> > From: bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM
> > Subject: Re: because info
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> > On Mon=2C Jan 6=2C 2014 at 11:55 AM=2C Neal Whitman wrote:
> > >
> > > Regarding my stance on the POS for "because"=2C I didn't claim in the
> > > Grammar Girl piece that it was a preposition=3B she wrote the title
> > > herself=2C "'Because' as a preposition=2C" presumably because she figur=
> ed
> > > this would be a likely phrase for people to be searching for. My own
> > > opinion is based on reading the arguments in CGEL for its overall POS
> > > system: "Because" has always been a preposition=2C one that takes a
> > > clausal complement. This is how CGEL classifies just about all of what
> > > are traditionally called subordinating conjunctions=2C except for the
> > > complementizers "that"=2C "if"=2C and "whether". So when "because" take=
> s an
> > > NP complement=2C it is indeed a preposition=2C but just one that now ca=
> n
> > > take one more kind of complement (like a verb that can take a
> > > "that"-clause gaining the ability to take an NP or PP complement).
> > > However=2C I did not put this opinion in the GG piece=3B there=2C I stu=
> ck with
> > > calling it a subordinating conjunction=2C and calling "because of" a
> > > compound preposition=2C and staying theory-neutral by referring to the
> > > innovative construction as "because NOUN".
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> > Sorry to misattribute the "preposition" label to Neal rather than to
> > GG -- I know how headlines can often be out of the writer's control.
> >=20
> > [=2C=2C=2C]
> > >
> > > The new usage of "because" I would probably now call "because X=2C" to
> > > recognize the non-NP complements that Gretchen McCullough and
> > [sic: it's McCulloch]
> > > Stan Carey note that it takes=2C and again refrain from calling it a pr=
> eposition.
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> > Some interesting discussion going on at Gretchen's blog=2C including
> > Neal's suggestion that we consider the complements of new "because" to
> > be "non-sentential standalone utterances." Gretchen had called them
> > "interjectional complements=2C" but that might not quite capture it. (I
> > agree with her that regardless or part of speech=2C the complements seem
> > to have interjectional force in online contexts=2C and their use as
> > Tumblr tags / Twitter hashtags is evidence of that.)
> >=20
> > http://allthingslinguistic.com/post/72252671648/why-the-new-because-isnt-=
> a-preposition-but-is
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> > --bgz
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