A couple of heards:

W Brewer brewerwa at GMAIL.COM
Sun Jan 19 13:19:02 UTC 2014


MM: <<Almost all of these verbs have strong preterites, so adding the weak
ending isn't that surprising.>>
WB:  It surprises the hell out of me. Rather I revel in the variation of MY
SPEECH forms, some of which you are apparently unacquainted with and
possibly disapprove of?
MM: <<I don't see what you're calling prevocalic intrusive [d]>>
WB: <I tore*my pants> (tore is pre-consonantal). <I tored*a ligament>
(tored is pre-vocalic).  Hmm... Am I flapping the <r>? <He stole my pencil,
he stoled a pencil.>   VR+C, VRd+V. The <d> is intruding, hence it is an
intrusive, no doubt weak preterite, d. <cost me my job, cost(ed) us a
fortune>. This is news to me. Historical and categorical details are givens.
MM: <<I know "sweated" as the only preterite of "sweat", a regular verb.
 I've never heard "sweat" as preterite>>
WB: Now you have. OED marks pret. <sweat> as archaic; alive & well in Webster's
3rd, i.e. U.S. dialectally attested.
MM: (pret. sweat <<would be the opposite of doubling (preterite halving?),
an innovative strong form going opposite to the disambiguating doubling in
costed and knitted.>>
WB: Okay, I was unaware that Anglo-Saxon <swae:tan> was a weak verb, until
I just looked it up. That's handy to know. But irrelevant in my reaction to
WG's examples <likeded, -eyeded, -haireded, stoppeded, runneded>, which was
to add some FRESH DATA to a list of phenomena. We weren't expecting the
Spanish Inquisition in an informal discussion list.

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