"out of" = 'in'

[Joel S. Berson]

I wondered whether the shots were fired from Norman, Oklahoma, at the
university (which perhaps was at some distance).

Yes I know the main campus is in Norman, but I bet there are other
campuses elsewhere.  In fact the College of Medicine is in Oklahoma City.

Joel

At 1/22/2014 05:45 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>No. Huge difference.
>
>The confident pace and inflection of the spoken utterance conveyed the
>unmistakable idea that "out of Norman" referred to the location of the
>University and not the origin of the story.
>
>Otherwise it would have been customary and journalistically idiomatic to
>have said, "[And now, breaking news] out of Norman, Oklahoma: [a report of]
>shots fired at the University of Oklahoma [there in Norman. That breaking
>news out of Norman, Oklahoma...]."
>
>Few newspeople seem to say "from" anywhere, if they can say "out of."
>  That's been true for many years.
>
>
>JL
>
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>On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Jonathan Lighter
> > <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
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> > > CNN reports "shots fired at the University of Oklahoma out of Norman,
> > > Oklahoma
> > >
> >
> > Hmmm...If you read, "CNN reports, out of Norman, Oklahoma, shots fired at
> > the University of Oklahoma," would you have said anything? Is there a
> > difference?
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