Vocal Fry bye bye

[Gordon, Matthew J.]

Thanks for the correct attribution.

In addition to the issues raised by DiCanio, Joe Fruehwald found some fry in one of the supposed 'normal" samples:
https://twitter.com/JoFrhwld/status/475968787490295809

Matt
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Actually as discussed by Christian deCanio (it's a guest post, and a very good one).

LH

On Jul 4, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Gordon, Matthew J. wrote:

> Practiced fakery is indeed the problem but perhaps not in the way Tom meant. This study is very flawed as discussed by Mark Liberman:
> http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=12774
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> Vocal fry, otherwise known a creaky voice, is not a good hiring affectation.See http://theatln.tc/1jQQnLD   "Women using fry were viewed more negatively than men doing so, and the negative perceptions were stronger when the listener was also a woman....They were less likely to say they'd want to hire the person with the fry voice, mostly because they found them to be less trustworthy.    One reason for this, the researchers suggest, is that women using vocal fry speak at lower pitch, but people tend to prefer voices that are at the average pitch and timbre for the speaker's gender.  "
> So why should lower pitch gender mistrust.  I think it's the affectation, or practiced fakery, that the edgey part.  It's not genuine.
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> Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now FL 12.See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk
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