Antedating of Jesus H. Christ

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Mon Jul 28 03:05:51 UTC 2014


And was he appointed upon the death if his predecessor Michael J Fox?
On Jul 27, 2014 7:53 PM, "Baker, John" <JBAKER at stradley.com> wrote:

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> It sounds implausible to me. Is there any way of determining whether a
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> John Baker
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> > On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:51 PM, "Jonathan Lighter" <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
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> > 1885 _Kansas City Star_ (Apr. 29) 1: Every Man to His Trade...Capt. Jesus
> > H. Christ, of Durango, has been appointed superintendent of schools of La
> > Plata county, vice, Prof. Fox, deceased.
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> > Jokes on the names of biblical characters then follow, but this doesn't
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> > Anyway, it's another '85 JHC.
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> > On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>
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> >> A quick search of Newspapers.com seems to show "Jesus H. Christ"
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> >> in the Cincinnati Enquirer, Aug. 30, 1871, and Weekly Arizona Miner,
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> >> 0, 1880.
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> >> Fred Shapiro
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> >> HDAS has "Jesus H. Christ" to 1892, and Fred Shapiro has antedated it to
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> >> 87 - 1888.  Here is a further antedating, to 1885.  The item below was
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> >> ed up by a number of newspapers, of which the earliest I have is from
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> >> alveston Daily News, Jan. 5, 1885, p. 9.  It cites as its source the
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> >> Pilot, which I do not have.  This is via Newspaper Archive.
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> >> "The names of Jesus and Christ sound very sacred to English-speaking
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> >> , but among the Spanish both are common names--given and surnames.  At
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> >> do, the other day, Jesus H. Christ was registered at one of the hotels.
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> >> remember noting a few years ago that a Mexican named Jesus Christ had
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> >> hung for horse-stealing.  Truly, there is nothing in a name."
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> >> The writer was under the impression that this was just an example of
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> >> h names, but that seems unlikely to me, and of course the writer himself
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> >> other newspapers implies that the phrase was not yet common even in oral
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