cissexual

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Tue Jun 10 22:11:39 UTC 2014


Wisdom may be drawn from the contemplation of my koans.

JL


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

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> Poster:       Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
> Subject:      Re: cissexual
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> On Jun 10, 2014, at 12:04 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>
> > Ever notice how the most interesting thing about people nowadays is who
> > they like to do it with and why?
> >
> > JL
> >
>
> Not in the OED, though.  There's no entry yet for "cisgender" much less
> "cissexual", but lots of other "cis" forms:
>
> cis-atlantic   n. on this side the Atlantic
> 1823   T. Jefferson Writings (1830) IV. 381   Our second [maxim should
> be], never to suffer Europe to intermeddle with cis-Atlantic affairs.
> [sounds a bit Monroe-Doctrinaire, does it not?]
>
> cis-ˈborder   n.
> 1901   19th Cent. Apr. 711   Raised in fixed proportion from the
> transborder and cis-border clans.
>
> cis-lunar   n. on this side the moon.
>
> cis-marine   n. on this side of the sea.
>
> cis-pontine   n. on this side the bridges, viz., in London, north of the
> Thames.
>
> cis-uˈralian   n.
> 1886   Encycl. Brit. XXI. 79/2   The Permians, or Cis-Uralian Finns.
>
> [etc.]
>
> transf. to time = Since, subsequent to.
> cis-Elizabethan   n.
> 1870   J. R. Lowell Among my Bks. (1873) 1st Ser. 3   The modern school,
> which admits no cis-Elizabethan authority save Milton.
> cis-reformation   n.
> a1661   T. Fuller Worthies (1662) Staff. 45,   I place him confidently not
> a trans-, but Cis-reformation-man.
>
>
> and my favorite of them all (re who one likes to do what with, perhaps):
>
> cis-bedpost   n.
> 1864   Miss Cornwallis in Sat. Rev. XVIII. 463   Pray tell me about the
> trans-bedpost regions; my whole concern at present is the cis-bedpost—a
> very narrow domain.
>
>
> --LH, currently cisgendered, cissexual, cisvestite, and in general just a
> hopeless old cissy
>
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:25 AM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com
> >
> > wrote:
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> >> Poster:       Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
> >> Subject:      Re: cissexual
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> >> A little difficult to follow, but to use the idea of a grid I proposed
> in
> >> my e-mail today titled "Cishet and Q permutations," I read these terms
> as
> >> simply using only one variable for sex or gender (plus additional
> verbiage
> >> for personal history).
> >>
> >> Writing out my grid (formatted for e-mail) with A meaning matching the
> >> self and B not:
> >>
> >> Straight, cissexual, cisgender person:
> >> O (sexual orientation) = B
> >> S = A
> >> G = A
> >>
> >> (That is, a straight person's sexual orientation does not match their
> sex
> >> or gender because they have a sexual preference for someone of a
> different
> >> sex/gender.)
> >>
> >> Gay, cissexual, cisgender person:
> >> O =  A
> >> S = A
> >> G = A
> >>
> >> Bisexual, cissexual, cisgender person:
> >> O = A, B
> >> S = A
> >> G = A
> >>
> >> Intersexual, cissexual, cisgender person:
> >> O = A
> >> S = A, B (or A > B as intersexuality does not come 50-50)
> >> G = A
> >>
> >> Serano's terms I believe are simply single-variable terms in such a
> grid:
> >> Cissexual person:
> >> S = A
> >>
> >> Cisgender person:
> >> G = A
> >>
> >> For third and fourth genders, the letters C and D could be utilized.
> >>
> >> Benjamin Barrett
> >> Formerly of Seattle, WA
> >>
> >> Learn Ainu! https://sites.google.com/site/aynuitak1/videos
> >>
> >> On Jun 9, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wikipedia:
> >>>
> >>> "Julia Serano has defined *cissexual* as 'people who are not
> transsexual
> >>> and who have only ever experienced their mental and physical sexes as
> >> being
> >>> aligned', while cisgender is a slightly narrower term for those who do
> >> not
> >>> identify as transgender (a larger cultural category than the more
> >> clinical
> >>> transsexual)."
> >>>
> >>> Got that?
> >>>
> >>> JL
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