Didn't as [dIdInt]

[Jonathan Lighter]

If I'm trying to reproduce the pronunciation of my grandfather, it's
"buyrl."

If not, not.

However, as a cranky geezer myself, I am tempted to adopt such
pronunciations out of sheer perversity. I never seem to get around to it,
though. Too hard to remember to do it.

JL

JL


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:

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> At 6/24/2014 11:00 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> > > the Abbey is "Down-ton".
> >
> >Not to me. None of your minimal pairs strike resounding chord in this
> house.
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> I'm nearly identical with Larry, I think.  With some wavering.
> Tauton?  Tautin?  (for the town).
>
> Jon, how about Berle?  And spoken by someone more cultured than Mortimer.
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> Joel
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> >JL
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> >On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
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> > > On Jun 24, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
> > >
> > > > At 6/24/2014 08:24 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > > >> I've always done that syllabic thing with "Milton" because as a New
> =
> > > Yorker
> > > >> I do the same nasalized thing with "mountain" and "countin'."
> > > >=20
> > > > If I had had a childhood acquaintance in NYC, I might have called
> him =
> > > "Mil-tn".  But to me the poet and revered republican is "Mill-ton".
> > > >=20
> > > Nice minimal pair!  I'm not sure I consistently do that for the poet, =
> > > though.  I definitely contrast "Milton" (uncle) with "Will-ton"
> (Wilton, =
> > > CT), and "tauntin'" with "Taun-ton" (Mass.), and have the strong sense
> =
> > > that I'd reduce Wilton and Taunton if I lived in or near those towns, =
> > > but the poet could go either way.  I agree with JL on "mountain" and =
> > > "countin'", but the Abbey is "Down-ton".
> > >
> > > LH
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