Didn't as [dIdInt]

[Joel S. Berson]

At 6/24/2014 02:48 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

>If I'm trying to reproduce the pronunciation of my grandfather, it's
>"buyrl."

I meant his first name.

Joel


>If not, not.
>
>However, as a cranky geezer myself, I am tempted to adopt such
>pronunciations out of sheer perversity. I never seem to get around to it,
>though. Too hard to remember to do it.
>
>JL
>
>JL
>
>
>On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > At 6/24/2014 11:00 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> > > > the Abbey is "Down-ton".
> > >
> > >Not to me. None of your minimal pairs strike resounding chord in this
> > house.
> >
> > I'm nearly identical with Larry, I think.  With some wavering.
> > Tauton?  Tautin?  (for the town).
> >
> > Jon, how about Berle?  And spoken by someone more cultured than Mortimer.
> >
> > Joel
> >
> >
> > >JL
> > >
> > >
> > >On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> > >wrote:
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> > > > On Jun 24, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At 6/24/2014 08:24 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > > > >> I've always done that syllabic thing with "Milton" because as a New
> > =
> > > > Yorker
> > > > >> I do the same nasalized thing with "mountain" and "countin'."
> > > > >=20
> > > > > If I had had a childhood acquaintance in NYC, I might have called
> > him =
> > > > "Mil-tn".  But to me the poet and revered republican is "Mill-ton".
> > > > >=20
> > > > Nice minimal pair!  I'm not sure I consistently do that for the poet, =
> > > > though.  I definitely contrast "Milton" (uncle) with "Will-ton"
> > (Wilton, =
> > > > CT), and "tauntin'" with "Taun-ton" (Mass.), and have the strong sense
> > =
> > > > that I'd reduce Wilton and Taunton if I lived in or near those towns, =
> > > > but the poet could go either way.  I agree with JL on "mountain" and =
> > > > "countin'", but the Abbey is "Down-ton".
> > > >
> > > > LH
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