Fwd: Re: Eddystone Light Fwd: Re: buoy [boy] ~ [BOO-ee]

[Dan Goodman]

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Subject: Re: Eddystone Light  Fwd: Re: buoy [boy] ~ [BOO-ee]
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:13:11 +0000
From: Martin Ryan <martinpatrickryan at gmail.com>
Reply-To: ballad-l at list.indiana.edu
To: ballad-l at list.indiana.edu
CC: Martin Ryan <martinpatrickryan at gmail.com>

As a sailor, i’ve never heard an American say “Boy” - nor a Brit say
“Boo-ee” for “buoy”.

Regards

On 28 Mar 2014, at 14:59, Joe Fineman <joe_f at verizon.net> wrote:

> ballad-l-request at list.indiana.edu, in the person of Dan Goodman
> <dsgood at iphouse.com>, writes:
>
>> The American Dialect Society mailing list had a discussion on
>> pronunciation(s) of "buoy."
>
> The OED says that the standard British pronunciation is now "boy", but
> used to be "bwoi" (N.B. not "booey" -- the glide is at the beginning).
> It does add, tho, that "some orthoepists" give the "booey" version.  The
> AHD, OTOH, gives "booey" first & "boy" second.
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: buoy [boy] ~ [BOO-ee]
>> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 21:07:44 -0400
>> From: Laurence Horn
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>> Subject:      Re: buoy [boy] ~ [BOO-ee]
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>>
>> You can find a bunch of different versions (52) of "Eddystone Light" on
>> iTunes; the excerpts I checked all have /@hoi/ and /boi/ (and the bit, I
>> just after that couple, about how one of the offspring was exhibited as
>> a talking fish and another served in a chafing dish; all very tragic),
>> but I didn't come across any (without having checked all 52) that
>> included the final spoken couplet below.  I guess it was the old
>> "Brothers Four" version that I dimly recall.
>
> In researching "Eddystone Light", you should also look up "The Man at
> the Nore" (a lightship, not a lighthouse).  See
> http://www.fresnostate.edu/folklore/ballads/PBB120.html.  At any rate,
> it contains the pun on "boy" as part of the 2nd stanza -- see
> http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=6670.
> --
> ---  Joe Fineman    joe_f at verizon.net
>
> ||:  It's pretty hard to tell what does bring happiness; poverty  :||
> ||:  and wealth have both failed.                                 :||


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