[Ads-l] /d/ for flapped /t/
Joel S. Berson
Berson at ATT.NET
Sat Nov 15 20:48:59 UTC 2014
Answering Wilson also.
I can hear a difference when I speak knowing that there might be a
difference. And it sounds (I think!) somewhat like what Jon is
describing. I think I even lower the tone of the "a" when I say
"ladder" as compared to "latter". But am I biasing myself to prove a
preconceived hypothesis?
Probably my test would only tell me what I can *hear* if I listened
to someone else speak a (potential minimal) pair -- such as
latter/ladder, butter/budder, better/bedder. But then I would have
to listen to someone who makes the distinction in speaking, wouldn't I?
Joel
At 11/15/2014 08:09 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>I believe I can hear the difference although it is subtle.
>
>/d/ sounds (and feels) to me minutely longer and more emphatic. (A
>phonologist could say that better.)
>
>Many of us will remember entire classrooms of students of whom only two or
>three could hear the difference between /a/ and /C/ (e.g., "pa" and "paw,"
>"hottie" and "haughty"). Practice helped, but it didn't help everybody.
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