Slang a la the NYT

[Laurence Horn]

On Oct 5, 2014, at 3:36 PM, David Daniel wrote:

>> Poster:       Neal Whitman <nwhitman at AMERITECH.NET>.
>> Subject:      Re: Slang a la the NYT
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>> Maybe it was a remote conditional, using the paste tense of "lie":
>> http://literalminded.wordpress.com/2011/10/13/if-i-just-lay-here/
> 
>> Neal
> 
> I would have loved for this to have been the case, but, unfortunately, the
> use was squarely and unmistakably (splat!) in the present tense.
> DAD

I haven't checked the blog, but I assume there's no allusion to amorous interludes with parkas…
(As Kory's grandmother no doubt used to warn her, "If you lay down, you get up with feathers")

LH
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> 
>> Poster:       David Daniel <david at COARSECOURSES.COM>
>> Subject:      Re: Slang a la the NYT
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>> I liked her NYT article on slang, then went on to check out the blog and
>> almost immediately, like in line 4, was horrified to see: "...if I lay
> down
>> on the living room floor..." WTF? World-renowned lexicographer and
> language
>> writer uses lay for lie? So I decided that whatever else she had to say
> was
>> probably tainted and I lost interest and stopped reading. Sigh.
>> DAD
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Poster:       Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM>
>> Subject:      Re: Slang a la the NYT
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>> Also, Kory is a she. I highly recommend her blog on lexicography,
>> Harmless Drudgery.
>> 
>> http://korystamper.wordpress.com/
>> 
>> I cited it when I had the opportunity to opine on matters
>> lexicographical for the NYT op/ed section.
>> 
>> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/03/opinion/lies-murder-lexicography-dictionar
>> y.html?pagewanted=all
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Dave Wilton <dave at wilton.net> wrote:
>>> I don't see any problem with Stamper's article. It's basically just a
>>> piece that highlights the problem of the recency illusion, i.e., just
>>> because a term is in vogue, doesn't mean it's new. I haven't checked her
>>> specific claims, but none of Stamper's examples seem wrong on their
>>> face.
>>> 
>>> And in this case, the op-ed is written by a real lexicographer, someone
>>> with training and expertise in the field, not by some journalist who
>>> half remembers some lesson his eighth-grade English teacher taught him.
>>> As far as newspaper articles that address language go, this is one of
>>> the better ones.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> [T]he word "dude" predates the Dude of
>>>> "The Big Lebowski" fame by over 100 years.
>>>> 
>>>> http://goo.gl/sq2KHJ
>>>> 
>>>> It does?! For real?!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Lest anyone waste his running it down to me, no, I'm not serious. I'm
>>>> annoyed that someone can simply pull bullshit out his ass and get it
>>>> published in the NYT, even when it has nothing to do with politics.
>>>> 
>>>> Youneverknow.
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