Whooping, but not with an extension cord
Tom Zurinskas
truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Mon Sep 15 03:55:36 UTC 2014
English phonetics is so poor that it can't indicate the sound being said in this instance.
What sound does the "oo" stand for in the spelling "whoop"? Is it as in blood (~blud)? or hood (~hood)? or brood (~brued)? My take is that he ~woopd the kid's ~toosh with a piece of a ~boosh.
My data show that letter string "oo" stands for the sound in "good" slightly more than for the sound in "food" using word frequency found in typical text pages. Thus, "oo" is used in truespel for the sound in "good" (~good).
Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now FL 12.See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk
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> At 9/13/2014 11:14 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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> >Since Peterson is a native of Palestine - "PAL-uh-steen" - but a hoot and a
> >holler from Marshall in East Texas, no doubt he said [hwUp'm].
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> That, I assume, would be the transitive verb with its object. But
> how would he pronounce the verbal noun "whupping"? (Or is the 'm "ing"?)
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> I heard a TV sports commentator say not what I would spell as either
> "whipping", "whupping" (as in "pup"), or "whooping", but rather
> something close to "wh at pping" (schwa-like).
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> Joel
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> >It can be hard to choose a spelling for non-standard stuff. I've been
> >working on a spelling for [m at ra:nI] / [m at raInou] for dekkids. Since I have
> >no idea how anyone else might spell it, either, trying to find
> >documentation of it is difficult, if not impossible, to do.
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> >On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > > From a front-page article on the indictment of Minnesota running
> > > back Adrian Peterson for child abuse (in print as "N.F.L. Rocked
> > > Again as Star Faces a Child Abuse Charge", by Steve Eder and Pat
> > > Borzi, Sept. 13; the on-line version is redacted):
> > >
> > > "Peterson told the police that he would give 'whoopings' to his son
> > > for misbehavior, the [police] report said, according to CBS Houston.
> > > But Peterson denied that he had ever used extension cords. 'Oh, no,
> > > I'd never hit my child with an extension cord. I remember how it
> > > feels to get whooped with an extension cord. I'd never do that'."
> > >
> > > Not anything at all, I suppose, like his getting whooped by fans
> > > after a particularly spectacular play on the field, or a performer by
> > > the audience at a popular music concert.
> > >
> > > Unless, of course, "whooping" is a mistranscription by the police of
> > > Peterson's oral "whupping", or his pronunciation of "whipping".
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> > > Joel
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