[Ads-l] Physical Wallet & Hardware Wallet (absolutely sure it's plain ASCII this time)

Tue Apr 14 01:38:55 UTC 2015

Or just maybe, a billfold folds up and holds bills, so a cardfold can fold
up and hold cards.

DanG

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

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> > On Apr 13, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM> =
> wrote:
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> > There's billfold to reflect the money-holding role of a wallet.
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> > If we need to reflect the prevalance of cards, how about 'cardfold'?
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> > DanG
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> If a billfold folds bills, a cardfold would fold cards.  I would =
> hesitate to subject mine to to such a fate, however attractive the =
> snakeskin pattern.
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> LH
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> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Brian Hitchcock =
> <brianhi at skechers.com>
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> >> Subject:      Physical Wallet & Hardware Wallet  (absolutely sure =
> it's
> >> plain
> >>              ASCII this time)
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> >> Apologies for the gobbledygook earlier.  Michael Quinion got me
> >> straightene=3D
> >> d out on "encoding".
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> >> There needs to be a retronym for a traditional (e.g. leather) wallet =
> that
> >> y=3D
> >> ou can store actual credit cards in. This retronym is necessitated by =
> the
> >> e=3D
> >> xistence of software-based digital wallets a.k.a. virtual wallets =
> (Google
> >> W=3D
> >> allet, ApplePay, etc.).=3D20
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> >> There is a term, Hardware Wallet, (apparently not a retronym) which =
> refers
> >> =3D
> >> not to a traditional wallet, but to a folder (sometimes made of =
> paper)
> >> that=3D
> >> is intended to store thin payment-oriented hardware devices. For =
> example,
> >> =3D
> >> in one place, Bitcoin describes their Hardware Wallet as:  "a Secure =
> USB
> >> sm=3D
> >> art card based wallet for crypto-currencies (sic).  Apparently this =
> means
> >> a=3D
> >> wallet to hold smart-card-based USB devices (hardware) which support
> >> crypt=3D
> >> ocurrencies (such as Bitcoin).   Elsewhere (on their own Wiki -
> >> =
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> >> bitcoin.it/wiki/Hardware_wallet  ), Bitcoin defines Hardware Wallet =
> as "a
> >> d=3D
> >> evice that stores a part of a user's wallet securely in =
> mostly-offline
> >> hard=3D
> >> ware." So the hardware wallet apparent refers either to the physical
> >> folder=3D
> >> or to the electronic device it holds! (note that Bitcoin uses =
> 'Wallet' by
> >> =3D
> >> itself to refer their software/digital/virtual wallet -- bwh)=3D20
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> >> There is also now a variety of hardware wallet called HD Wallet (the =
> HD
> >> sta=3D
> >> nds for Hierarchical Deterministic, which IIUC has to do with the
> >> encryptio=3D
> >> n method for credentials), but that sample of tech argot might be too
> >> esote=3D
> >> ric or ephemeral  to join the vernacular.
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> >> Wikipedia uses the term Physical Wallet in its article on BitCoin, to
> >> refer=3D
> >> to something (made of any material) that can 'store the credentials
> >> necess=3D
> >> ary to spend bitcoins offline' (This corresponds to one of Bitcoin's
> >> defini=3D
> >> tions for Hardware Wallet, above.) However, Wikipedia does not show
> >> Physica=3D
> >> l Wallet in their list of retronyms (
> >> =
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> >> retronyms  ). They list no retronyms starting with "physical", nor do =
> they
> >> =3D
> >> list Physical as a Retronymic Adjective.
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> >> It seems to me that Physical Wallet should be applied to any =
> traditional
> >> wa=3D
> >> llet, but maybe we'll have to start calling them Traditional Wallets, =
> or
> >> so=3D
> >> mething else. Anyway, I don't believe either Physical Wallet or =
> Hardware
> >> Wa=3D
> >> llet are in dictionaries yet. I'm not sure whether they have cropped =
> up
> >> out=3D
> >> side of computer-tech or banking circles.=3D20
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> >> -->   Is anybody interested in tracking down E.D.U. for physical =
> wallet
> >> and=3D
> >> /or  hardware wallet, and possibly submitting them to the powers that =
> be
> >> (h=3D
> >> owever that might be done) for consideration as new terms? =3D20
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